Head of Republic of Crimea Sergey Aksyonov told in an interview “Gazeta.Ru” what he thinks about banning meetings in Simferopol, a possible ban on Crimean Tatar Mejlis and its recognition as the extremist organization. According to him, there are no disgruntled among the Crimean Tatars; and he thinks there is no sense to introduce the direct elections of the Governor in Crimea.
— You often say that if there are meetings and demonstrations it’s some kind of mistake of the authorities. They have to communicate with disgruntled people. But in that time a ban on holding meetings and concerts in Simferopol has already imposed. How do you explain this?
— I have already asked the Legal Department to make the analysis of this order. And we asked the Crimeans. We have an extremal situation, especially in areas where there is the killing of pork. “Well, please. Do not vector the situation!” Even if you would need…
— What do you mean saying “don’t vector the situation”?
— There is stay indoors zone, but many people come.
— But there is pig influenza.
— Anyway is emergency situation. I asked people not to gather. Police officers securing regime. All police working in the quarantine area of the first and second zones. More than 150 people working there are staff of traffic police. We even expend energy in doing ensuring. And I just appealed not to gather. (A picket group of farmers demanded the government to cancel the emergency situation due to the outbreak of African swine fever in the center of Simferopol, March 7. According to farmers’ statements there is no swine fever and livestock is killed for having benefit of imported meat from other regions. — “Gazeta.Ru”.) I respond even to a single appeal of citizens The Minister and the head of the profile Committee would come to them. At a recent meeting the authorities came. But the representative of the initiative group himself has not relationship to pork. Displeasure discontent was seen and used in a political struggle.
I HAVE ALREADY GIVEN THE HEADS OF THE ADMINISTRATIONS THAT THEY DON’T UNDERSTAND THE SITUATION AND DO NOT COMMUNICATE
— Do you consider the order of the authorities of Simferopol wrong?
— I can’t give an assessment. Even from the legislation point of view. The Legal Department will correct if they have made something wrong.
— One more time. When quarantine started, you have appealed to the people?
— It was before, when the situation of emergency started. When become the problems with electricity. Many people wanted to come out from their homes. Their intention is clear but we have to take a hold ourselves. If we block the street, the electrical grid will not be fixed faster.
IT WAS A REQUEST. I USED TO LOVE TO HOLD A MASS-MEETING. NO ONE CONFLICT DISPENSED WITHOUT ME SINCE 2009
— There are no problems with electricity anymore?
— I’m just saying that the problems that are usually brought at such public events don’t worth sixpence. They could have achieved the same if the district head called me and said, “There is an initiative group and they are asking for clarification.” Council of Ministers would gone there without any problems. The Minister went and talked. We can’t do more. But organizers even did not know the problems with pork. I will not be surprised if tomorrow some deputies will begin to position themselves in context of these problems.
— But the Constitution permits holding of meetings.
— You must understand that we have an extreme situation. Do I have to pull in police, distract people during the holiday for these mass protests? Who benefits from this? Why do we need to do this? I’ve told our citizens: “Lets find a compromise. Address these issues in social networks”. I agree that system is slow and it may take time to get to the prosecutor. Nevertheless, my personal assistant is constantly on social networks, always calls and talks with everyone.
THE GOVERNMENT DOES EVERYTHING THAT PEOPLE COULD KNOCKING ON IT. ONCE I EVEN INVITED PICKET FROM PSYCHONEUROLOGICAL DISPENSARY. I DON’T MIND TO SPEAK AND EVEN PROTEST
— There is a discussion In Sevastopol about returning elections by direct voice of the Governor. Indirect elections are only in the national republics. Maybe Crimeans like others Russians have to choose the head of region on direct elections?
— To tell the truth I don’t see any difference. In fact, even when elections are indirect chooses the force that got more votes. The transparency of the process will be observed in both modes. Actually I didn’t reflect over it and I can’t say what would be more efficient. In Ukraine the head of government was elected by voting in Parliament.
— You’re speaking about Ukrainian tradition, but Crimea is |a part of Russia for two years…
— Is Crimean tradition, not Ukrainian. We have our own history with its moments. But I do not care.
— Do you mean that you will not raise this point?
— I don’t see any sense.
— And other political forces?
— Maybe. I just don’t see the difference.
— The EU and the UN regularly declare about infringement of rights of Crimean Tatars in the Republic. What can you answer them?
— According all opinion polls you can find that over 94% of Crimeans support the resumption of Crimea. And according census there is 10.5% of Crimean Tatar population. If you study the overall statistics it will be clear that half of this population supports the resumption of Crimea to Russia. There were not any facts that could indicate a biased attitude against people of any nationality. Representatives of the Council of Europe visited us and when the conversation drifts to someone, it turns out that there is no any examples. Only Chiigoz, who will have responsibility for organizing mass actions which were followed by death of people. (According to investigators one of the leaders of the unregistered organization “the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people” Akhtem Chiigoz, organized mass civil disorders under the walls of the State Council of Crimea (then the Supreme Council|) February, 26, 2014. Two people died and 79 were wounded. Chiigoz is accused of committing a crime under article 212 of the Russian criminal code (organization of mass civil disorders accompanied by violence and destruction of property). In Ukraine this case is considered trumped-up and the Chiigoza is a political prisoner. — “Gazeta.Ru”.)
REPRESENTATIVES OF THE COUNCIL OF EUROPE COULD NOT POINT OUT ANYTHING. ALL THIS IS FAIRY TALES AND IS THE TOOL IN THE FIGHT AGAINST THE RUSSIAN STATE.
— Supreme court of Crimea one of these days can recognize Mejlis the extremist organization. You support this option and the office of the Mejlis is being already transferred to the Republic. Do you really think that is good way to resolve the situation? The Mejlis is a real organization, though unregistered. It was not possible to arrange?
— First, is impossible to “close” the unregistered organization. There is only the word “Mejlis”. Secondly, who needs to get calm? Can you see somewhere here any actions on a national basis? Just no one explained everything before.
— If there is national basis, why are you trying to recognize them the extremist?
We’re talking about specific characters. Dzhemilev (Mustafa Dzhemilev, the Chairman of the Mejlis of the Crimean Tatar people in 1991-2013. — “Gazeta.Ru”), Chubarov (Refat Chubarov, leader of the Mejlis. — “Gazeta.Ru”), Islyamov (Lenur Islyamov, businessman, one of the organizers of energy blockade of Crimea. — “Gazeta.Ru”), That’s all this so-called Mejlis – thank them the Crimea was left without electricity during the cold weather!
IF YOU LOOK AT DIFFERENT POLLS EVEN ON THE ATR TV CHANNEL IN UKRAINE, YOU WILL SEE THAT THE SUPPORT of THESE LEADERS WAS NOT MORE THAN 25%
— The survey asked if people will vote as the Mejlis says or not? 10 thousand people (took part. — “Gazeta.Ru”]. And a series of calls from the Crimean Tatars started and only a third of them said they would act as the Mejlis say. Now they are even less. I know all these leaders they only robbed their own people.
After the “Crimean spring” I first called Refat Chubarov and suggested: “Let’s sit down and talk”. Chubarov and Islyamov were delegated to the government. Wife Chiigoz appointed to the Khan’s Palace. Isn’t that a compromise? We told them that we want to remove all the foreign policy sources of influence and resolve all issues inside. Chubarov recognizes that I called him. What another mechanism can be?
— And then they severed all ties?
— They were taken the task by Americans. Mr. Dzhemilev come here in April. It was I who gave permission him to come the Crimea. And what did he do? He sat in the Mejlis and raised the Ukrainian flag. I asked all the heads of the Mejlis: “Did I ever cheat you?” Proposed to build the process, to come into authorities. What was the end?! They broke through the border and staged political PR.
DZHEMILEV HAS INFORMED THE STATE DEPT ON UKRAINIAN AUTHORITIES. ON THE LEAST OCCASION RUNNED TO THE U.S. EMBASSY IN KIEV. I KNOW ALL THIS. IN FACT, THEY ARE ENTIRELY FINANCED FROM THERE
What is the sense of exciting of organization that summon to occupy everything, to bring everybody to knees and cutting heads? However let’s the court will decide!
— It is easy to imagine what will be the decision…
— I’m speaking about my opinion. If such decision will be adopted, I will support it.
— And what about people?
We persuaded and talked to everyone but when some political figures say one in the evening and then go to Kiev where fling mud our country… I was saying to them: “Of all the nerve! Be a man, otherwise what’s the point? But they are flotsam and jetsam. They are not capable of making an arrangement. There they call to create a battalion, but here go in a nearby store.
Representatives of different confessions visited us. But I believe that the offender has no nationality. What else is needed in the present situation? I had meetings with the Crimean Tatar activists. Even those who stood against Russian unity. We understand that they were lied and now the majority is in our formation. Maybe there are ideological enemies of Russia but we will convince them. We will not hold military actions unless the low is respected. None Commission could not say me anything.
ACCORDING TO THE FEDERAL TARGET PROGRAM THE CRIMEAN TATARS WILL GET 10 BILLION ROUBLES UNTIL 2020. ALL THESE FUNDS WILL BE SPENT FOR THE RIGHT PURPOSE. UKRAINE HAS NEVER DROPED THE MONEY FOR THE SUPPORT OF THE CRIMEAN TATAR PEOPLE. THAT’S ALL!
— At the end of last year you declared that funds from the Federal program for the year 2015 “was not transferred a single kopeck”. In that context, you suggested to delegate the republic’s authorities spending resource without the consent of Federal agencies. Now the new variant is in government. Why for two years that Crimea is a subject of the Russian Federation you was not able to establish a common understanding with the Federal government? Who is guilty?
— We got everything going. There were some professional disputes that can be calmly discussed in the public sphere. The more so, no one should feel aggrieved that the problems are actively discussed among professionals. This is a usual occurrence. Such controversy will always be. Currently the program and schedules are formed. Сomplaints from the point of view of morality and official duties were required of both Republican officials and at the Federal level. But it doesn’t matter and we don’t have to pass the buck now.
EVERYONE CAN MAKE A MISTAKE. IN OTHER REGIONS ALSO IS NOT GOING SMOOTHLY FITH THE FEDERAL TARGET PROGRAM
We worked in one state and now work in another state, in another legal field where we have never worked. It raises many questions. There was a difference of the documents. Many of them, those that went on the Federal program were adapted Ukrainian documents. When they had gone to the examination the questions with divergence of interpretations of the individual wording started.
We have not possible to adopt direct decisions which could solve the problem. It was necessary to make changes at the Federal level. But today the Federal program is formed. Design and reconstruction will cover the 301object in 2016. 21 billion rubles would be spent. All conclusions are made. Unit dealing with the economy has been replaced,…
— You said earlier that the reshuffle in the govern Cabinet reshuffle are not related directly with the Federal program.
— Not directly, but indirectly with all situations. It needs to achieve a direct solution. But I always say: seek no objection but the opportunity to resolve the issue. There are no unsolvable issues.
— Is the Federal centre satisfied now?
— Yes, we decided on the merits together. The work was pushed forward and the documents are brought into sync. Everyone is warned. I will protect everyone who works. But those who do not manage will not work.
— Recently you said that the resignation of the Republic will continue until the professional team that will work as a well-oiled machine will be formed of a. Why you did not manage to form a professional team at once? It surprising that one of the last dismissed, Andrew Skrynnyk, ex-Minister of industrial policy of Crimea you protected by yourself. Was he on professional or unprofessional team?
— The Minister of agriculture was fired for the specific situation. He didn’t complete a my assignment on registration of nationalized property. Investigators will clarify the reasons. In the summer when he got under an investigation I believed that there were not good reasons for his prosecution. But at the end of the year we came with specific outcomes: someone received money for the state property, and the private traders works there as worked… It’s unprofessional. Further the investigation will understand. I’ve made my decision before.
— As judged by the number of resignations you have not professional team primary.
— That’s not it. Time requires an another access. Professional team can’t form in one day. The training level is not lower than in any other subject of the Russian Federation, including in Moscow. This is about the knowledge of legal norms of a given field. Nothing more.
I TALK TO PEOPLE AND DON’T SEE ANY GLOBAL KNOW-HOW. STAFF SCARCITY IS EVERYWHERE
— Somewhere managers prefer not to take decisive steps. I don’t agree with this. The process is hard. Is possible to estimate another way. If I have not taken these steps and the menace to the leaders would not be, we would not pass this experience. But we took for two years more legal acts than in any other subject! No one region this is not shove shoveled up so.
— You always talk about Western forces and the State Department. It’s a joke, figure of speech? Or you really believe that the West is so serious about the Crimea that constantly doing something?
— They are serious about the Russia. Crimea is an pretext.
— So, this is not a joke?
— This is not a joke. I don’t mean the people in the West but their leaders that see Russia as a direct competitor. America sees the world as unipolar and does not want a strong Russia near by. It were not the Crimea they would footboard any athlete at the Olympics. They would find the reason for these sanctions and the conflict would go on. Crimea is just the pretext. Why no one cared what they did in Kosovo and other countries? The events in Crimea were without victims, and they don’t want to regard us. To be honest, let them go in the bath and live their own life.